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title: The Hotwire #7: October 4, 2017
subtitle: Community relief means abolishing capitalism; Catalonia: new state or no state?
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[**Listen here.**](https://crimethinc.com/podcast/hotwire-7)This week we go on a bunch of rants. We rant about [why no state is better than a new state](cwc.im/CatalanDemocracy) in Catalonia. We rant about [why anti-fascists should not allow the state](https://crimethinc.com/2017/08/29/not-your-grandfathers-antifascism-anti-fascism-has-arrived-heres-where-it-needs-to-go) to position itself as the principal force protecting people from Nazi violence. We rant about how [mutual aid and community relief](https://itsgoingdown.org/colonialism-neoliberalism-solidarity-puerto-rico/) must mean [opposition to capitalism](https://crimethinc.com/books/work) and a [redistribution of wealth.](https://crimethinc.com/posters/capitalism-is-a-pyramid-scheme) Rant rant rant! Rah rah rah! {October 4, 2017}